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I have been hearing and reading “the end times are upon us” for all of my seventy-plus years. The comment I replied to said we were wasting brain power on opinion. It is what God gave us to communicate and a necessary step to solutions. I understand you think you are shining a light. Ee don’t see your response the same way. If I could select the time of His coming it would be this moment. I would not be surprised to find humanity in existence, ten millenia from now. Relax. When it happens, it happens. I expect my life to end sooner.

One more thing. I suspect your view of our Creator is a bit slight. I think I cannot even comprehend. I don’t think anyone else can, either.

I think it would be a great thing to end the ages-old procedure of using religion to manipulate people. And yet, on it goes.

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Well Biblically the "end Times" are the times between the first coming of Christ and the return of Christ, the second coming, the church age.

Well actually My point was that it (God an man) can't be comprehended, free will vs an infinite God, the nature of God fully. What we can know has been given in Scripture, as I referenced.

So you believe the Bible is an instrument of religious manipulation from the beginning?

I say that because I used scripture to address your point and you say my view of God is a bit slight (from Scripture) that you can't comprehend. So are you saying the Bible is actually incomprehensible?

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That’s more than one question, and I can’t definitively answer. We know scholars selected from various sources the tracts that seemed important that now comprise the Bible. It has been translated more than once and each time, meanings appear to change. I think the existence of God is not fully comprehensible because our ability to comprehend is limited. I think the scriptures have been cherry-picked. I know you will have an issue with that. I didn’t come here for this discussion, I came here for another, and you thumped the heck out of that. I objected. I’m still objecting.

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Instrument of religious manipulation from the beginning? Of course not. But three people can get three meanings from the same passage, and they do, and it’s misuse that manipulates. I’ve been howled-at several times too many. Today’s religious right have devastated genuine faith, have driven youth away, and small wonder.

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It's OK just was curious, just wanted to know where your coming from Thanks.

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That’s okay, but I’d suggest you go back and read the general run of comments, then the one of yours to which I initially replied. Quite a difference.

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