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Why was this attack shocking? It was one of the least shocking attacks of all time. It was announced. It was mostly just slow moving drones. Nobody in Israel was killed. It happened on a Saturday, when all markets were closed. And Iran announced that it was over. It was nothing more than a slap on the wrist for when Israel bombed the consulate which killed about a dozen people. Now that was shocking.

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So Iran launched 300 weapons at Israel knowing it was going to do nothing? They said they would strike in a way to take massive revenge (in kind) and it didn't happen. The Iranians said what they will do will be shocking, and the media reflected what Iran wanted to be known and then it didn't happen as Iran said it would a big nothing burger. Yes and the Iranians did this to limit the damage, but to inflict no real damage at all. This could actually make things worse, now Iran must save face.

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Iran has said that the whole thing is "concluded". They delivered their message. They don't give a shit that you don't understand it.

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To say they don't care? They delivered a message? What message was that? Israel kills 11 top guys and they give a little girl a boo-boo and put 3 holes in the ground? They said this is concluded because they don't want this to go further. Does this mean the war is over that Iran wants to make peace with Israel and let them exist in peace in the land? Really?

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If you felt the attack by Hamas was horrible (and it was), then the same feelings would be expressed with the missile attack on Iran’s sovereign grounds. Both attacks were “blind sided” and both were met with retaliation.

Iran’s strike involved multiple nations being engaged with their actions. Tel Aviv is 1000 miles from Teheran... use logic and common sense; launching an air strike from 1000 miles is telegraphing One’s intent, telling the USA is telegraphing One’s intent... frankly, all 300 targets should have been destroyed but 3 snuck in.

There will not be any other escalation.

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https://theintercept.com/2024/04/14/israel-iran-drag-us-war-netanyahu-biden/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletterr

While Israeli officials, not least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have sought to portray the Jewish state as the victims of an unprovoked Iranian attack, it was their own deadly strike on the Damascus consulate that triggered the new phase of the conflict. Though the U.S. created the conditions that may have encouraged Netanyahu’s gambit, it was Israel, acting on its own behalf, without coordination with its allies, that precipitated the latest grave escalation.

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And we would have done the same thing. They had intel this was a major planning meeting for future operations against Israel or allies in the area. Your telling me our Milt intel or CIA would not act on that of course we would and we have. Look they are already at war and have been so now for months. Welcome to what modern war looks like.

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"And we would have done the same thing."

That's not necessarily true. American soil was attacked by Iran in 2018 (I think), and Trump did nothing but roll over and spread his cheeks. He wrote off the brain-damaged U.S. soldiers as just having headaches. Trump even decided to give Syria to Iran. Let the Kurds die, who cares! Not our then-president!

I can't copy and paste the relevant passages, so here's the link w/ the necessary info about America definitely NOT "doing the same thing": https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2024/04/scared-to-death-gop-ex-congressman-brings-hammer-down-on-weak-trump/

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Avoiding all out war is good, no ?

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I think you mean in 2020 and it was military bases in Iraq and it was very limited. Reagan backed down as well in Lebanon. I was not talking about that. I was comparing the attack on Israel proper (the Nation) in relation to America proper CONUS if it was attacked.

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Iran has overseen a range of hardline factions for decades, and these groups have stepped up attacks over the past three months, ever since Hamas, a leading beneficiary of Iranian support, launched its assault on southern Israel on Oct. 7.

Today, Iran supports groups attacking U.S. and Israeli forces in five separate places in the Middle East, according to U.S. and Israeli officials.

Iran backs Hamas in the Israel-Gaza war. Iran supports Hezbollah in the daily rocket and missile exchange along the Israel-Lebanon border. Iran arms the Houthis, who are firing at commercial cargo ships, which are being protected by the U.S. Navy. And Iran is also the patron of smaller militias that have attacked U.S. troops repeatedly in Iraq and Syria, mostly with drones.

By design, Iran, a Persian nation, pursues this agenda with Arab proxy forces so Tehran can maintain an arm's length and not get directly involved in the fighting.

Iran has "very cautiously unleashed the whole network of armed gangs that they run in the Arab world that it calls 'the axis of resistance,'" said Hussein Ibish of the Arab Gulf States Initiative in Washington.

Tehran wants "to use proxies in order to engage on various battlefields without it ever touching Iran or Iranians or without it coming close to the homeland," he added.

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No they didn't; none of the Axis in WW II did! They had no qualms about murdering POWs either. By the same token, none of the Allies stored weapons or munitions in or around their hospitals, unlike Hamas and other MB groups who consistently do so! BTW, that was not the embassy, but a separate building near it! Might want to get your information from folks who were there, instead of revisionists!

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You need to read history... the Allies fire-bombed the city of Dresden, America fire-bombed Tokyo, the Allies bombed dams (the movie “Dam Busters” was made showing this)... during WWII.

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I am very aware of those acts; the fire bombing of Tokyo was carried out by the Doolittle raid, a few months after the unwarranted and devastating attack at Pearl Harbor. Dresden, on the other hand, was at the tail end of the war in Europe, and carried out by the RAF, believed to be in retaliation for the horrific attacks on British cities throughout the war, by German air forces. It was, of the 2, the most questionable, in terms of possible war crimes. Dams were, like the Hoover dam in NV, also major highway connectors for moving supplies and munitions to support forward troops, so bombing them was strategically necessary to impede the enemy's ability to wage war. YOU need to understand, war, once engaged, is not a "civil" business, and it can never be so! Therefore, it behooves nations to THINK THROUGH the whole situation, before engaging! Once the 1st act is taken is too late to do that!

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Killing citizens is killing citizens. Your account of the Tokyo bombing is completely wrong; Doolittle had nothing to do with the fire bombing of Tokyo... the fire bombing was conducted in April of 1945, Japan surrendered 4-5 months later. The bombing of Dresden was conducted by the Allies and those forces were led by General Eisenhower and the RAF were the units carrying out the bombing. It was not because of the Germans bombing towns in England, it was due to the Germans having their factories close to the neighborhoods of Dresden. Bombing of infrastructures where citizens are in harms way is prohibited by the Geneva Convention and the bombing killed thousands of civilians not soldiers.

You made up some excuses which destroys credibility, you may feel your position is justified but you can’t justify by avoiding truth.

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And America doesn't and Russia doesn't or any nation? They all do! All the time. welcome to the real world of corruption. It's pure hypocrisy and self righteousness, to cast a stone when even we are not without sin.

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No, they didn't! Hamas is the source of the lies, as usual. For the Jews, lying, period, is a sin; for Muslims it is a common practice outside their own trusted circles!

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This is a war. Every nation will do per-emptive strikes for military advantage.

The whole purpose of war is to get the enemy to capitulate as soon as possible and limit your consequences, to drive them to the negotiation table. Yes and oh my goodness people die in the process.

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Despite what Iran states publicly, They have to be humiliated and shocked. 300 projectiles resulting in very little damage to one air base that did not interfere with base operations and one child injured. This shows the capabilities of Israel and the west to defend Israel. All those voices of doom for Israel and they pull off somehting that literally borders on the miraculous, but clearly sends a message, that if you want to hurt us you are going to have to do a lot better. Our eyes in the sky really demonstrated the control over the battlefield. To identify, track and engage 99% of all targets even before hitting Israel airspace really give a clear clue of their defensive capabilities. This had to scare the you know what out of the Iranians. And of course what do the Iranians say after this utter failure and military humiliation? They announce this is over. Like hey guys sorry about that, can we now pretend this never happened and yell Olly olly oxen free.

How can they claim vengeance for 3 top generals dead among a total of 11 with a few holes in the ground and one injured little girl.

Israel can just sit back and bask in the light of exposing the utter incompetence of their lower level of missile and drone systems.

This is far from over, in fact this may push Iran to the next step and all Israel might do is just wait and focus on Lebanon and Syria, going back to normal and maybe see another strategic strike soon.

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If this was a WIN for Israel, why do they not retaliate? 1) The US said stand down - which means "we cannot win this battle". 2) It reflects a changing of World Order. The West is dying, and soon the US Empire will diminish, if not already. Russia, China, Iran, the BRICS, will control the NWO and we CANNOT stop that without creating a global collapse. OIL, INFLATION, HYPERINFLATIONARY Dollars. Our goose is cooked and the powers know it.

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Iranian leaders believe Israel must be eliminated before the return of an Islamic "messiah-like" figure known as the Mahdi.

For years, Iran has been indoctrinating its fighters throughout the Middle East in the belief that there must be an apocalyptic war that destroys both Israel and Jews around the world in order to usher in the Mahdi's return.

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It is the Iranians and Hamas who are advocating genocide of the Jews.

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Israel should have never started it by bombing their consulate in Syria. The people who call me goyim can go to war with the people who call me infidel and I don't care.

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If this was a WIN for Israel, why do they not retaliate? 1) The US said stand down - which means "we cannot win this battle". 2) It reflects a changing of World Order. The West is dying, and soon the US Empire will diminish, if not already. Russia, China, Iran, the BRICS, will control the NWO and we CANNOT stop that without creating a global collapse. OIL, INFLATION, HYPERINFLATIONARY Dollars. Our goose is cooked and the powers know it.

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If this was a WIN for Israel, why do they not retaliate? 1) The US said stand down - which means "we cannot win this battle". 2) It reflects a changing of World Order. The West is dying, and soon the US Empire will diminish, if not already. Russia, China, Iran, the BRICS, will control the NWO and we CANNOT stop that without creating a global collapse. OIL, INFLATION, HYPERINFLATIONARY Dollars. Our goose is cooked and the powers know it.

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If this was a WIN for Israel, why do they not retaliate? 1) The US said stand down - which means "we cannot win this battle". 2) It reflects a changing of World Order. The West is dying, and soon the US Empire will diminish, if not already. Russia, China, Iran, the BRICS, will control the NWO and we CANNOT stop that without creating a global collapse. OIL, INFLATION, HYPERINFLATIONARY Dollars. Our goose is cooked and the powers know it.

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If this was a WIN for Israel, why do they not retaliate? 1) The US said stand down - which means "we cannot win this battle". 2) It reflects a changing of World Order. The West is dying, and soon the US Empire will diminish, if not already. Russia, China, Iran, the BRICS, will control the NWO and we CANNOT stop that without creating a global collapse. OIL, INFLATION, HYPERINFLATIONARY Dollars. Our goose is cooked and the powers know it.

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If this was a WIN for Israel, why do they not retaliate? 1) The US said stand down - which means "we cannot win this battle". 2) It reflects a changing of World Order. The West is dying, and soon the US Empire will diminish, if not already. Russia, China, Iran, the BRICS, will control the NWO and we CANNOT stop that without creating a global collapse. OIL, INFLATION, HYPERINFLATIONARY Dollars. Our goose is cooked and the powers know it.

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I pray for Israel. It surprises me that you, Michael, and Amir Tsarfati, said if this had happened to the U.S. we would have responded fiercely or something like that....Really? This current administration would have responded fast to protect we citizens? Hard for me to believe. Everything they do is for others. The good stuff anyway.

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Israel hit a military facility, not the embassy! And that it was far from "unprovoked"! HAMAS is killing the Gazans; when are y'all going get that Israel is NOT the enemy, Islam is???

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The people of Gaza are prisoners, plain and simple. This is occupied territory.

Riddle me this: what is expected from the civilians of Gaza? Sit still for another 50+ years and hope for freedom? Most people don’t possess the capacity to discern the difference between Hamas (supported and co-created by Israel) and the civilians, this obfuscation justifies any actions against Gazans. By the way, the annex that was destroyed in Syria is sovereign grounds... it is no different than the USA’s compound Embassy in Tripoli.

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Yes, they are, but prisoners of their own free will choice, not Israel! Israel no more"created "Hamas than they did al Qaeda, al Nusra, Boko Haram, or any of the other MB terror groups! Islam created them. Ignorance "justifies" nothing. There is a basic difference in attacking a military installation on site and a civilian gov't entity.,,particularly when the 2 nations involved are in open conflict!

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Google “Hamas”, “Netanyahu”, “formation” ... December 10, 2023 New York times... read it and you will understand the relationship.

All of our embassies have military personnel, there is no difference between military or civilians when it comes to sovereignty... sovereignty deals with physical land not a state of mind or intent.

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Agai, it' USELESS tryingtoexplainrules ofwar vs rules ofpeace to a zealot wh "knows it all" except ROE! Have a nice life,while you can; that will be changing soon.

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Yes, Iran would consider the attack that killed their version of "CENTCOM" for their proxies' militant activities in the region "provocative", notwithstanding the fact that taking them out is essential to shutting down Hamas and Hezbollah and Houthi attacks against Israel, but that was hardly " unprovoked" on Israel's part! Those are the ones coordinating the consistent attacks against Israel for years. It would be like an enemy taking out NORAD or the Pentagon, to stop our militaries' organized resistance!

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OH NOOOO, God will bless those who bless Israel, and have wrath on those that curse them. It's in the Holy Bible.

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Not a Christian here. Sorry to ask, but who wrote the Bible?

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Yhwh, through his "proxy" scribes!

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The finish the story. God said he would forgive Israel bring them back to the land and Jesus would return from the exact same place he left to establish his kingdom, Mt of Olives in Israel.

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No sir, it does not; it's1 Book,with a single, contiguous message! Only 1 completely ignorant of the Word would claim differently!

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Jesus said, Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill (on the cross). For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished (the kingdom of heaven comes). Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (referring to the moral code of the law).

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Do you know what a codicil to a will does? The NT is essentially a codicil, not a total revision, or replacement, of the OT!

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Both Testaments are essential for study and learning. They go together.

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Actually, the Father sent the Son to earth for the very purpose to die on the cross for our sins. It was the Father's plan and purpose to do so. Jesus said I lay my life down freely and I can pick it up again and no one takes it from Me. Because of our sin we are all under God's judgement to death. Out of compassion for all mankind the Father sent his Son to execute judgement for all of us onto the Son in our place. It actually was an act of mercy and grace for all of us, for He died in our place, He took what we all deserve.

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I thought it was Rome that killed Jesus with the consent of the Jews. Just saying.

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For some of the Jews killed the prophets, and some even killed the Lord Jesus. Now they have persecuted us, too. They fail to please God and work against all humanity

1 Thessalonians 2:15

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Read Romans 11. And see what God had planned for Israel in the end,

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I know what God has planned for a "remnant" of Israel.

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And what is amazing is to see God work His wonders in the midst of our brokenness and sin.

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Out of context!

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Only by adoption.

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Yes Jesus told Pilate that His Father in Heaven placed Pilate there for this very purpose. It was God's plan.

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Only the Jewish Sanhedrin, and not even all of them,let alone "all the Jews"!

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Note, the "evil Jews" were part of the Sanhedrin, not the majority of the Jewish people!

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Corrupt leaders, for which Yeshua called them out repeatedly, during his last sojourn among humans on Earth. The earliest followers of the Messiah (Christ) were, in fact, Jews!

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The Holy Land was largely emptied of Jews only after the Arab conquest in the 7th century C.E. At that time the Arab conquerors made a law prohibiting Jews from owning farm land. What happened to the land owned by these Jews?

Before that in 66 AD the Jews in Judea revolted against the Roman occupiers and 1.1 million Jews were killed and another 97,000 Jews were taken captive. At that time the entire population of the world was only 200 million. What happened to the land owned by these 1.2 million Jews? In 132 AD another 580,000 Jews were killed by the Romans. What happened to the land owned by these Jews?

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The Arabs had no lawful right to do so, since all that land was deeded by blood and salt covenant between Yhwh God and Abraham, IN PERPETUITY, to the Children of Israel! The Arabs have no rightful claim to a single square centimeter of the land in any way!

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You, sir, are an ignorant, biased, and evil minded excuse for an human, and I have no more to say to you! You refuse truth when it's presented; so be it! I shake your dust from off my feet! I am a NATURAL BORN American, and not afraid of you or your father Satan!

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Recently there have been several genetic tests and research studies proving that disparate Jewish communities share common DNA markers. Studies of autosomal DNA, which look at the entire DNA mixture, show that Jewish populations have tended to form relatively closely related groups in independent communities, with most in a community sharing significant ancestry.

Obviously, there have been outside contributions to the Jewish gene pool.

Nevertheless, for populations of the Jewish Diaspora, the genetic composition of Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi Jewish populations show significant shared Middle Eastern ancestry. These results, according to prominent geneticist Doron Behar and many other academic experts in 2010, show a remarkable consistency “with a historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant” and “the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World.”

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Please do not call me a weasel. It makes me feel bad.

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