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Jeanne, I understand I dealt with a neighbor who was involved in the occult and had a demonic entity in her home via a Ouija board, we had one in our home growing up. It's not about pleasure per say, but about power and control. The illusion of having these powers will bring happiness but it's a lie. Those who love it, love the sense of power and control kind of like the last great act of defiance in the face of God and judgement. They have issues with God being God and out of the trials and pains of life they believe the lie (as I did) there is another road to happiness w/o God. The same lie to Eve. They are just deceived, eyes that can't see and ears that can't hear the truth.

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